Fitness coach Joe Wicks and singer Ellie Goulding catch up on life as Joe asks her about what she’s been doing to keep mentally and physically strong through lockdown.

Joe and Ellie catch up on life since they last saw each other - at her wedding two years ago, and they reminisce about how they first met. Ellie also shares what it's like to headline one of the world's biggest music festivals. She explains how she ensures the audience always get her best performance even when she gets up on the wrong side of bed and is not in the mood to perform at all.

Ellie explains why it was important that all the packaging for her latest album, Brightest Blue, is as sustainable as possible, and how she’s trying to cut out single use plastic. She reveals what she turned to in lockdown to keep her nervous system calm, and why she wrote a fitness and wellness book.

Joe’s hit Radio 4 podcast is now available to watch on BBC iPlayer. Show less