Fitness coach Joe Wicks talks to inspirational people to ask them what they do to keep themselves feeling mentally and physically strong. He talks to Charlie Mackesy, author and illustrator of The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse, about his secrets to health and happiness.

Charlie's best-selling book has sold over three million copies worldwide and his illustrations struck a chord with people of all ages during the 2020 lockdown, including Joe and his young daughter Indie.

Charlie joins Joe from the barn in Suffolk where he has been working on new illustrations over the last year. They discuss Charlie's very personal inspiration for his art and the emotional impact of his book on his readers; from school children to soldiers. And when he's taking a break from the easel, Charlie tells Joe he finds solace by exercising in nature.

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