Near-death experience, Jose Mourinho and a physio’s wig all feature as Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink sits down with Kammy and Ben at St George’s Park for the latest Proper Football Podcast.

The former Leeds and Chelsea striker talks about why Elland Road gave him goosebumps, his shock at the players’ eating and drinking habits and remembers the terror when a plane engine carrying the squad exploded in mid-air.

He also discusses his time at Chelsea: what was behind Luca Vialli’s departure, what it was really like when Roman Abramovich turned up and why he was left disappointed by Mourinho. Elsewhere, he explains why he opted for Middlesbrough over AC Milan, reveals how he angered his captain in Portugal and recollects how Frank de Boer slaughtered his twin brother Ronald after a World Cup semi-final.

Meanwhile, Kammy recalls how a windy day at Stoke led to one of the funniest things he’s ever seen and how did an England ‘call-up’ for Kammy lead to John Barnes being dumped on the floor? Show less