The death of George Floyd sent shock waves around the world and has become a catalyst for demands for change. Millions have demonstrated in many different countries, calling for a change not just in policing, but in the way society treats black and ethnic minority people. Why are they so often bottom of the pile in terms of educational opportunity, employment, housing and health? Does what happened in Minneapolis represent a moment in history after which real structural change will come? Or is it just another false dawn, like so many that have come before with protests against racist brutality in America? Zeinab Badawi is joined by Alice Bah Kuhnke and Baratunde Thurston to debate these questions.

Alice Bah Kuhnke was until recently Swedish minister of culture and democracy. She is a member of the green party and one of the few black deputies in the European parliament and has been a fervent critic of a lack of ethnic diversity in EU institutions.

Baratunde Thurston is an American writer, activist and comedian. He wrote the New York Times best seller How to Be Black, he was a producer on The Daily Show with Trevor Noah and is currently hosting live on lockdown on his Instagram.

Presenter: Zeinab Badawi
Producer: Ben Carter
Editor: Carey Clark Show less