Nicky talks to Dr Melvin Vopson as Associate Professor in Physics at the University of Portsmouth. Melvin explains why he believes things like nature's symmetry and quantum physics point to our reality being a simulation - and whether information is the fifth state of matter.

Produced by Audio Always
Producer: Ailsa Rochester
Assistant Producer: Mansi Vithlani
Editor: Jo Meek
Sound Design: Ailsa Rochester, Mansi Vithlani Show less