Amanda White and Natalie Glanvill talk about their personal experience of IVF treatment. Contains strong language and adult conversation.

In this episode they speak to Leanne who has written an article called ‘The Shit Sandwich’. She is currently childless and frustrated with her body for not giving her the baby she wants.

“I would allow someone to paralyse me with an injection if at the same time it can make me pregnant with that one in injection.”

“You fall into this level of desperation because you just think, you don’t understand this biological urge to be a mum and it’s my god given right to be a mum and actually it’s a privilege to be a mum.”

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