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(l) Paola Diana and (r) Njoki Ngumi

Tackling the Gender Pay Gap

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Two women who are determined to close the gender pay gap

Why do women earn less than men? Kim Chakanetsa speaks to two women from Italy and Kenya who want to change perceptions of women's worth in the workplace.

Why do women earn less than men across the world, and what can be done to narrow this gender pay gap? Two experts from Italy and Kenya give their ideas on how to make the workplace more equal and pay women what they are worth.

Paola Diana (@paoladiana_) is the founder of PariMerito or Equal Merit, an organisation through which she lobbied the Italian government to pass new equality laws in the workplace, including one requiring company boards to have at least 30% women. Paola started her own businesses as a single mother of two, and believes real change will only come from all nations having more women at the top of politics, business and industry.  She is also the author of 'Saving The World - Women: The Twenty First Century's Factor for Change'.  

Dr Njoki Ngumi (@njokingumi) is a writer, physician and feminist thinker who has held positions in private and public health care sectors in Kenya. She is now coordinating learning and development for the NEST Collective, a Kenyan multidisciplinary artistic squad. She also works at HEVA Fund, Africa's first creative economy catalyst fund.  In her experience, official gender gap statistics fail to reflect the reality of most women's work in Kenya, which tends to be informal, and in low wage manual jobs. Thus she says the biggest change would come from improving pay and conditions for domestic workers.

(L) Image and credit: Paola Diana
(R) Image and credit: Dr Njoki Ngumi

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