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(l) Monica Geingos (credit: Paul Morigi/Getty Images) and (r) Jonina Leosdottir (credit: Elsa Bjorg Magnusdottir)

First ladies

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Two women whose partners became head of state in Namibia and in Iceland

The current First Lady of Namibia talks to the former First Lady of Iceland about the expectations and challenges that come with the role.

What exactly is the role of the first lady? It's an unofficial position, that comes with enormous expectations, and some obvious pitfalls. Kim Chakanetsa speaks to the First Lady of Namibia, Monica Geingos, and the former First Lady of Iceland, Jonina Leosdottir.

Monica Geingos is a lawyer and businesswoman who married Hage Geingob in 2015, shortly before he became President of Namibia. Monica has continued with many of her previous responsibilities, but she seeks to complement her husband's work by supporting socioeconomic projects in the country. She looks forward to the day when there are more female heads of state and spouses are no longer judged on what they wear or who they're married to.

Jonina Leosdottir is an Icelandic novelist and playwright, whose long-time partner, Johanna Sigurdardottir, became Prime Minister of Iceland in 2009. Jonina therefore became the world's first gay First Lady, and she had to make many personal sacrifices as her partner steered the country through economic crisis. Jonina carried on with her writing career, but says she hardly saw Johanna for five years. Now, however, she's (mostly) happy to have her back.

(L) Monica Geingos (credit: Paul Morigi/Getty Images)
(R) Jonina Leosdottir (credit: Elsa Bjorg Magnusdottir)

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