Two people who share a common experience, meet for the first time. Each has a gift for the other - an object that unlocks their story. With the help of presenter Catherine Carr, they exchange personal experiences, thoughts and beliefs, as well as uncovering the differences between them.

Saima Razzaq and Teddy Prout both had to make a choice about their faith when they came out as gay.

Teddy was a teenage Evangelical Christian when he came out. But when his church tried to “cure” him and “pray away the gay”, Teddy started to question his beliefs. He began a decade long journey from Christianity to atheism, and humanism. He still feels angry for the 16-year-old boy who was rejected by his religious community.

Saima is a British Pakistani who was prepared for a battle when she came out in her twenties. She was surprised to find being both a Muslim and a lesbian was not a big deal for most of her Birmingham community.

Teddy and Saima share how hard it is to leave a faith, and to stay in a faith. They give away something precious to both of them - symbols of their identity and their personal stories.

Presenter: Catherine Carr

Producer: Louise Cotton

Executive Producer: Jo Rowntree

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