'First there was Beethoven, then there was Bach and then there was Brown' - that's what James Brown - Mr Brown to Trevor - said before they started an interview in a hotel, just a few days before he also recorded an exclusive concert for the BBC.

James Brown has the most monikers in music - Soul Brother Number One, the Godfather of Soul, the Hardest Working Man In Showbiz - but would he live up to his status as both Diva and Hero for Trevor. He was charming, after throwing the first question straight back with a wise and witty quip, but Trevor had the feeling that he could turn at any moment and the results would not have been pretty.

Key tracks, his childhood in poverty, stage tricks, theatrics, his first visits to british television studios and the fact that he was the most sampled (and least financially compensated) artist on the planet all come up in their fascinating and thrilling conversation.

He was of course a huge figure - even at the age of 70 - sharp, sassy, cocky, complicated and provocative all at once. James Brown simply didn't care what people thought of his politics, behaviour and horrendous private life, but, without him, no Hip Hop and no great stage performances from the likes of Prince and Michael Jackson. One hundred percent true Diva. Show less