Presented by Tom Service.

Tom meets the celebrated conductor Bernard Haitink who talks about how conducting is a strange profession, the differences between his many orchestras and despite 6 decades at the very top of his game admits he still gets nervous before rehearsals. He also shows Tom round his treasured wall of composer letters and autographs - a treasury that's built up as his wife, Patricia, finds a new one for his birthday each year.

Tom also talks to the baritone Simon Keenlyside and ballet dancer Zenaida Yanowsky about their shared life in music and dance. They talk about the similarities between the worlds of opera and dance, how their childhoods have shaped their careers and why they don't want their children to grow up to be singers or dancers.

And we preview 'Marnie' the new opera by the American composer Nico Muhly opening at English National Opera. Based on a Winston Graham novel, it follows a kleptomaniac with multiple identities, a hidden past, and a set of disturbing relationships. Tom talks to Nico about how he went about writing it - and speaks to two of its stars, Sasha Cooke and Daniel Okulitch. Show less